Monday, June 14, 2021

We Had a Little Real Estate Problem by Kliph Nesteroff

 


1.     What feelings did this book evoke for you? 

·       Happy, sad, angry, and surprised

·       Non native author using direct quotes to tell the Indigenous story

·       Loved how he connected Hollywood, other actors/ comedians, and protests against Hollywood to comedy

 

2.     Have you ever heard any of the comedians/ actors featured in this book? What did you think of them?

·       Larry David

·       Gary Shandling

·       David Letterman

·       Richard Pryor

·       Dick Gregory

·       Jimmy Walker

·       Lindsay Wagner

 

3.     Did you check out any of the comedians or Indigenous people after or while reading this book? If you did, what did you think?  Some of the Indigenous folks featured:

·       Charlie Hill

·       Will Rogers

·       Jonny Roberts

·       The 1491s

·       Adrianne Chalepah

·       Jackie Curtiss

·       Dakota Ray Hebert

·       Jim Thorpe

·       Joey Clift

·       Brian Bahe

·       Lucas Brown

·       Paul Littlechief

·       Williams and Ree

·       Terry Ree

·       Jackie Keliiaa

·       Vaughn Eaglebear 

·       Larry Omaha

·       Ryan McMahon

·       Sierra Ornelas

·       Vincent Craig

·       Isiah Yazzie

·       Howie Miller

·       Don Burnstick

·       Marc Yaffee

·       Elaine Miles

·       Dallas Goldtooth

 

4.     Has this book changed your impression of Indigenous people? 

·       Could see the “trickster” role playing out

·       Reminded me that Indigenous nations are very different from one another

 

5.     What did you already know about this book’s subject before you read this book? What new things did you learn?

·       Seems obvious, but Indigenous people can’t practice night after night on a reservation

·       Everything is so darn inconvenient when you live on the reservation

 

6.     What do you think the author’s purpose was in writing this book? What ideas was he trying to get across?

·       He is not Indigenous. His other book is The Comedians: Drunks, Thieves, Scoundrels, and the History of American Comedy

 

7.     What else have you read on this topic, and would you recommend these books to others? 

·       Great to learn about Indigenous people (and comedians, if you are into that)

 

8.     Which historical events do you think might need more elaboration for someone not familiar with U.S. history?

·       It highlights how media has played a role in shaping what non-Native people think about Native people and how little attention is given to Native comedians by mainstream outlets.

·       Mohawk Steelworkers

·       Boarding schools

·       Ship Rock nuclear spill

·       Alcatraz Occupation

·       Trail of Tears

 

9.     Of all the information presented in the book, what has stayed with you the most? 

·       Will Rogers was Indigenous and traveled with Buffalo Bill

·       Casinos don’t book Indigenous comedians

·       Indigenous activism has been constant and ongoing, and also made invisible

 

10.   Share a favorite quote from the book. Why did this quote stand out?

·       Charlie Hill's stand-up act includes the following lines: " My people are from Wisconsin. We used to be from New York. We had a little real estate problem." Kliph Nesteroff riffs off Charlie Hill's comedic life into a broad overview of Native American comedy in this book.


Monday, May 10, 2021

White Tears/Brown Scars: How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color by Ruby Hamad


Thanks to Claudia for putting questions together Discussion Questions

 

1.What feelings did this book evoke for you? 

2. What do you think the author’s purpose was in writing this book? What ideas was he or she trying to get across?

3. What did you already know about this book’s subject before you read this book?

4. What new things did you learn?

5. What else have you read on this topic, and would you recommend these books to others? 

6. What aspects of the author’s story could you most relate to?

7. Of all the information presented in the book, what has stayed you the most? 

8. Share a favorite quote from the book. Why did this quote stand out?

 

QUOTES
 

“White women can oscillate between their gender and their race, between being the oppressed and the oppressor. Women of color are never permitted to exist outside of these constraints: we are both women and people of color and we are always seen and treated as such.”

 

“Women of color are rarely given the benefit of the doubt and even more rarely considered worthy of sympathy and support. If we are angry it is because we are bullies, if we are crying it is because we are indulging in the cult of victimhood, if we are poised it is because we lack emotion, if we are emotional it is because we are less rational human and more primitive animal.”

 

“Women of color have to not only battle white patriarchy and that of their own culture, but must also contend with colonialism, neocolonialism, imperialism, and other forms of racism. Given white women have never had to deal with racial and colonial oppression, it is not surprising — though it is certainly regrettable — that so many of them still regard feminism as a movement purely concerned with gender, leaving racialized women to keep trying to draw their attention to the ways in which various oppressions affect our lives. Until white women reckon with this, mainstream Western feminism cannot be anything more than another iteration of white supremacy.”

 

“White people are not united by a shared ethnicity. They are united by access to institutional power.”

 

“Gas-whiting” 

 

“This weaponization of White Womanhood continues to be the centerpiece of an arsenal used to maintain the status quo and punish anyone who dares challenge it.”

 

“A white woman may well be punished for an emotional outburst when interacting with men, but if she is engaged in a terse interaction with a woman of color and she becomes emotional, by which I mean either angry or distraught, with or without actual tears, the deeply embedded notions of gender and femininity are triggered and it is the white woman who is likely to be vindicated.”

 

“White women’s tears are fundamental to the success of whiteness. Their distress is a weapon that prevents people of color from being able to assert themselves or to effectively challenge white racism and alter the fundamental inequalities built into the system.”

 

“Those tears may well be genuine, but that does not make them innocent and harmless: the opposite in fact.”

 

“There is no sisterhood. How can there be, when white supremacy has done such a thorough job of setting White Womanhood apart from the rest of us? There’s a division, all right, but it is not caused by us. Yes,”

 

“Trying to reason with whiteness is akin to reasoning with a clinical narcissist who refuses to go to therapy: frustratingly impossible because the untreated narcissist simply does not have the requisite tools to see themselves as anything other than “good,”

 

“In the aftermath of the 2016 election, many feminists and writers both in and out of the United States (including myself), who were expecting a vastly different outcome, concluded that white women who voted for Trump had chosen to side with their race over their gender, that they prioritized whiteness over sisterhood.”

 

“White women share the same racial characteristics as white men and so are more easily able to transcend gender-based oppression. Their proximity to white men gives them, as Lorde pointed out, access to rewards for identifying with patriarchy when it suits them.”

 

“Feminism is not immune to this. For should we fail to keep up our end of the unspoken bargain, should we tug at the invisible leash that whiteness and white feminism have secured around our necks, then that solidarity is revoked and White Womanhood ensures it is always us, and never them, who pay the price for speaking out. Turns out, they too saw us as threats all along.”

 

“Many Arabs have fair skin, and my own is more olive than brown. This racial ambiguity affords me some degree of acceptance—until my ethnic background is inevitably brought to the foreground. Whiteness, then, is more than skin color. It is, as race scholar Paul Kivel describes, “a constantly shifting boundary separating those who are entitled to have certain privileges from”

 

“curly, waist-length brown hair. One at her workplace “kept touching my hair, pulling my curls to watch them bounce back. Rubbing the top. So when I told her to stop and complained to HR [human resources] and my supervisor, she complained that I wasn’t a people person or team member and I had to leave that position for being ‘threatening’ to a coworker.”

 

“That even as we agitate against the sexism of a male-dominated society, because it is also a white-dominated society we are also assailed with racism, and often this comes from white women who turn their sanctioned victim status on us. White women can oscillate between their gender and their race, between being the oppressed and the oppressor.”

“Make a note of just how often a woman of color who stands her ground, demands respect, or gives anything less than overwhelmingly positive affirmation to others is met with harsh rebuke and swift ostracism.”

“The Taliban emerged from former U.S. allies the mujahideen (“holy warriors”), who were partly funded by the United States in order to counter the Soviet invasion in 1979. There is a Western tendency to view Islamist extremism as intrinsic to Islam and as popular among Muslims, but groups such as the Taliban enjoyed only very minimal support from the Afghan population before the war against the Soviets.”

“Black historian Deborah Gray White explains that the Jezebel archetype was constructed as the mirror opposite to the ideal Victorian-era lady of the house. Godless and promiscuous, “she did not lead men and children to God; piety was foreign to her. She saw no advantage in prudery, indeed domesticity paled in importance before matters of the flesh.”

“Historian Liz Conor notes the hypocrisy of the sudden flurry to “protect” Aboriginal women from alleged abuse from Japanese pearlers given there had been “decades of unheeded reports of violence toward Aboriginal women by white pearling masters.” Whereas any accusations made against white men had long been dismissed through the rhetoric of “black velvet” that regarded Aboriginal women as incapable of virtue and chastity,”

“The rape and exploitation of enslaved black women was not just rampant, it was endemic. The writings of former slaves such Harriet Jacobs, as well those of sympathetic white women like abolitionist Sarah Grimké, paint a picture of black girls in their early teens getting routinely bribed with presents and “favors,” such as promises of better treatment, for agreeing to sex with white plantation workers or relatives of the owner.”

“In India, antipathy toward darker skin is so rife that a recent study found that 70 percent of both male and female respondents wanted to date a fair-skinned partner.”

“The abuse of black women served at least three functions: it terrorized the black population in order to reinforce white domination, it provided a source of continuous labor, and it was a sexual outlet that white men took advantage of in order to maintain the illusion of the moral superiority of white society in an era of supposed sexual chastity.”

“In what seems a classic case of projection, the ostensibly sexually uptight and moralistic Europeans transferred their own anxieties about sex onto the bodies and minds of Africans. This projection would not only cement the image of the Lewd Jezebel in the minds of white society, but it continues to reverberate”

“There were consensual relationships and transactions, though these were often not honored by the white men. “From the time white men invaded our shores, Indigenous women’s sexuality was … represented as something to be exploited and mythologized,” Aileen Moreton-Robinson writes”

“Violence against Aboriginal women was not prosecuted: in a scenario that may sound all too familiar to many women today, one newspaper reported that the rape, torture, and murder of an Aboriginal woman in the late 1800s was not prosecuted because the effects would be too detrimental … to the lives of the four white men responsible.”

“Prior to 9/11, Arab American comedian Dean Obeidallah did not see his Palestinian heritage as pertinent to his life; he felt and was treated as “white.” Following the attacks, however, his Arab heritage became an issue for others if not for him, prompting him to perform a stand-up routine on how he “went to bed a white guy” the night before 9/11 and “woke up an Arab” the morning after.”

“I’d be lying if I said I knew how to reconcile all this. I’m well aware of the racism and colorism in Arab societies, of the Filipina and other Asian maids mistreated by their rich employers in the Gulf states who regard them more as indentured servants than hired help. It did not escape my notice on a trip back to Lebanon that the workers cleaning the windows”

“Unlike enslaved black women, Native women were not represented as lewd wantons, but they were nonetheless sexualized and stereotyped through the Princess Pocahontas myth. More than just a Disney princess, Pocahontas was a real woman in history whose story has been appropriated almost beyond all recognition.”

“Arab is not even a racial or ethnic category; rather, it denotes a supposed shared culture and language. But the dialects and cultures vary significantly across the region, making the word Arab itself, as an identifier, a testament to the inadequacy of our racial literacy”

“The Princess Pocahontas myth represents a passive sex symbol, the “Good Indian” who unites the white man and the Native, the civilized and the savage, the past and the future. But—and this is a big but—through her attraction to white men she also affirms the superiority of white society over her own, and so functions as tacit permission for whites to conquer, assimilate, and destroy Native culture. Even her “princess” status was a fabrication”

“What does it mean to be an Arab in a region where persecution is often based not on race or ethnicity but on religious sect? What does it mean to be an Arab when your lands were colonized first by the Arabians, then by the Ottomans, then by the Europeans, and finally, along with the rest of the world, by capitalism itself?”

“As the young, sexy, virginal, and animal-like mediator, Pocahontas represents the feminized and inferior Native’s willingness to be dominated, penetrated (quite literally), and civilized by the superior masculine white society, as though agreeing to her own erasure and demise.”

“I mean, she is a cartoon, we are real people, we don’t fucking talk to raccoons and trees!” Angel joked, exasperated. What’s no joke, however, are the real consequences this archetype has had. The sexualizing and animalizing of Native women through the perpetuation of the Princess Pocahontas myth is occurring in a context where violence against Native women is increasing.”

“The lingering legacy of Princess Pocahontas—the willing exotic princess who chooses intrepid and strapping white suitors and white society over her static, dying culture and community with its unattractive, war-minded men—is a false construction that conveniently gives consent for the eradication of her people.”

“The quintessential China Doll is submissive, eager to please, obedient, and permanently pleasant, and lives for no reason other than to make her white lover happy. Nowhere has she been embodied quite so roundly as in the most-performed opera in the United States today, Puccini’s classic Madama Butterfly, based on a one-act play that was in turn based on an 1887 smash-hit semiautobiographical French”

“This image has so dominated Western views of Southeast Asian women that it became a key driver of Thailand’s sex industry. Sex tours of Southeast Asia remain hugely popular among white men, which ensures that the distorted image of Asian women persists.”

“For centuries, the West has regurgitated representations of colonized women that came to be accepted as more real than the real. Jezebels. Black velvet. Harem girls. China Dolls. Princess Pocahontas. All of these reduced complex human beings to cardboard cutout sexual objects without agency and whose surrendered sexuality was de facto justification for white supremacy.”

“What does it mean for the rest of us that white women can quietly control almost all of the weapons belonging to the world’s most powerful country and still claim to be oppressed in the same way as other women?”

“The younger cousin of the Angry Black Woman, the Angry Brown Woman is not critical: she is vitriolic. She does not disagree: she attacks. She is not confident: she is aggressive. She is not assertive: she is scary. She is, by sheer virtue of her inherent nature, permanently, well, angry—not because of anything that has been done to her, mind you, but simply because that is what she is.”

“In doing so, it betrays an unspoken implication that they don’t really belong there, they don’t play fair, and everything they’ve achieved can be explained by their lack of emotional attachment and their willingness to use, abuse, and discard white Western men—an absurdly inverse relationship to the historical reality.”

“One of them was Josefa Segovia, the only woman ever to be lynched in California. She had killed a white man who was part of a group who’d broken into her home and attempted to rape her. Given the emphasis on women’s virtue, the successful defense of her honor by a married woman should have resulted in praise.”

“To aid this expansion, Mexicans were depicted in newspapers and films as all-around uncouth people. The men were criminals, dim-witted, dirty, and untrustworthy, and the women were singled out—in shades of the Dragon Lady—as sexually manipulative, cunning, promiscuous, and without morals.”

“This is no shade on those actresses: they are who they are. The problem is when their appearance is used to reduce millions of women of the various races and ethnicities that populate the twenty-one countries that make up Latin America into one hot-blooded sex symbol. Not only does this erase the racial complexity of the region, it leaves real-life Latinas anxious about their looks and their behavior as they struggle to either”

“sexless, unattractive workhorse who was relegated to the kind of manual work that white women were considered too highly prized for.”

“Arab women came to be seen as they are largely seen today: sexually repressed, frigid, virginal, burdened by virtue, shame, and family honor, and more or less silenced—ironically, pretty much the things that supposedly made white women so special for so long.”

“To him a free woman was nonetheless subordinate to a man, but she was subordinate in the right—white—way. Even for Western women, higher education (as well as suffrage) was so vehemently opposed by so many white men for so long because any attempts to transgress the man/woman binary was considered not only a threat to white patriarchy but to Western civilization.”

“Readers are likely familiar with many of the Islamophobic tropes that have dominated Western perceptions of Muslims since the attacks of September 11, 2001. Regarding Muslims as natural-born terrorists, the tropes regurgitate images of them as irrational, dirty, bloodthirsty, stupid, emotional, immature, violent, fanatical, subjugated, oppressed, and manipulative.”

“When actors from Arab backgrounds make it to our cinema and television screens in non-stereotypical roles, their ethnicity is almost always whitewashed: How many people are aware that Catherine Keener, Salma Hayek, and Wendy Malick have some Arab ancestry? Apart from Bohemian Rhapsody’s Rami Malek and Aladdin’s Mena Massoud, there is a dearth of openly Arab/Middle Eastern actors”

“This has created a highly skewed perception of Arab women that relegates us to what I call “Pets or Threats”: we are positioned as helpless, repressed victims without agency or a voice worth listening to, desperately in need of a white savior to rescue us from the clutches of our Bad Arab kin; or we are Bad Arabs ourselves, threats that must be contained and kept in our place. If we are not one, we must be the other.”

“The coldhearted Dragon Lady uses her sexuality to deceive and destroy. The Spicy Sexpot’s curves and broken English take the smoke out of her fire. The Bad Arab is judged by the sex she supposedly doesn’t have and the sensuality she is cut off from feeling.”

“The fear of Black Peril—the name whites gave to the specter of black male sexual desire for white women—was so wildly disproportionate to the actual threat that historians now regard it as a kind of psychopathology.”

“These three factors—that she was single, ran a café in an undesirable area, and admitted to drinking alcohol—combined in the eyes of the court to make her a prostitute unworthy of protection.”

“That financially independent and sexually active single women were excluded from the “protected” class indicates that Black Peril was about controlling white women as well as subduing the black population.”

“In truth, sexual access to enslaved black women was a key way of producing more slave labor for personal use and for profit.”

“Sex work, if it has not yet been made abundantly clear, was reviled not so much because it implied dubious ethical character as because it allowed white women a degree of independence that most could not access.”

“Lynching was driven partly by the fear of interracial relationships between white women and black men and the impact mixed-race offspring would have on white supremacy.”

“Segregation, lynching, and Black Peril all occurred for the same reasons: to keep white men on top. White society, then, hinged on the myth of “protecting” white women from rape, but in reality, what they were really “protected” from was their own liberation and any capacity to form meaningful relationships with people of color.”

“And so “white damsel” as an archetype was one of racial purity, Christian morality, sexual innocence, demureness, and financial dependence on men all rolled into one. A privilege, yes, but a perilous one, for to step off this pedestal meant no longer being regarded as a “woman.”

“In other words, the suffragists, even as they were agitating for their own rights, were still complicit in the oppression of those with less power and status than them, including black women.”

“You stay in your place, and I stay in mine, then I get to claim you as my friend, you’re my coworker, see how I’m not racist? But [only] as long as you don’t challenge my identity and my position.”

“When broader society refuses to validate women of color, it becomes vital for us to share our experiences with each other as a means of coping with these damaging stereotypes and archetypes, and to help us recognize the gaslighting techniques and stereotypes that keep us in a subordinate position.”

“their triggers are words like ‘tribe’ and ‘namaste,’” Sharyn Holmes, the diversity consultant in Queensland from Chapter 2 tells me. “Namaste” is a Sanskrit word that has been popularized in Western yoga classes. Although Indians and other Hindus use it as a common greeting, Western yoga has transformed it into something more mystical”

Monday, April 12, 2021

Osage Rose by Tom Holm

 

Thanks to Xochi for putting questions together Discussion Questions

 

1.     1. What feelings did this book evoke for you?

·       Sadness about Greenwood

·       Treatment of Indigenous people is tough to read

 

2.     2. What did you like best about this book?

·       So many threads/ complex

·       Setting - cars and speakeasies of the 1920’s

·       Bring in relationship with the Cherokee

·       Good mystery with hints coming at the right points

·       It really showed institutional racism (wealth, resources, power, sheriff’s extortion)

 

3.     3. What did you like least about this book?

·       Vigilante justice

·       It was pretty bloody/ violent (true to “wild west” feel)

·       A lot of gun detail

·       Not many female role-models

 

4.     4. What do you think about the Lookout family? Hoolie? 

·       They had wealth (pump inside the house)

·       Had a car

·       Went to town to buy groceries

·       They are Cherokee and show how many nations are living together

·       Flivver https://www.gasenginemagazine.com/community/letters/fords-fabulous-flivver/

 

5.     5. What do you think about the portrayal of Indigenous folks? 

·       Jailhouse John is quite a warrior… afterall

·       grandfather lived in the teepee

·       traditional medicine

·       Sweat lodge just “happens”

·       Cutting hair in grief

·       Avoid speaking the name of a deceased

·       Osage hospitality

·       Pointing with lips

·       Importance of dreams

·       Importance of stories

·       Fear of owls

·       Panther is part of dreams

·       Snapping turtle in dream

·       Tortoise and Hare story (told from Indigenous perspective)

 

6.     6. How do you think the author being Indigenous (rather than white) changes the narrative if at all? 

·       More about systemic racism and stereotypes, and not about details of ceremonies

·       Contemporary interpretation of ancient traditions

·       Justice for both Indigenous and white people

·       p 188 Wahkondah

 

7.     7. Did you learn anything about the Osage oil boom and the racism that accompanied it? How realistically do you think it was portrayed? 

·       Absolutely

 

8.    8. Did you learn anything about the Greenwood Massacre that you didn’t know before? How realistically do you think it was portrayed?

·       Realistically portrayed the boy accused of assaulting the elevator operator (and the start of the riot)

·       KKK went after Indigenous people

·       Didn’t make Indigenous people invisible in Tulsa

 

9.     9. What was it like to have the Greenwood Massacre viewed through the eyes of a white man? Did it make it more or less impactful to you? 

·       I wonder what happened to the actual white people

·       J.D. came with perspective on racial life (empathetic “eyes”)

·       Liked that a native write chose both a Native and White person as a main character

 

10.  10. What do you make of the portrayal of Minnie and her lack of concern regarding the lynch mob? Her sacrifice? How do you think it does or does not reinforce stereotypes about black women? 

·       Thomas Whitwell was Minnie’s son

·       Women, in general, weren’t portrayed well